On Muslim Immigration In The EU

Tyranosopher
January 27th, 2012.
Europe, per its many nations coming together in an union, is a place of debate, therein its strength: many ideas are proposed, the best ones mate together and produce better sorts of ideas.
As far as anti-Muslim racism is concerned, let's notice the following. More than a millennium ago, France silently incorporated an important Muslim population, without any coercion (we know this from genetic analysis). If the High Middle Ages could do it, so can we.
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la.výritý in reply to Tyranosopher
January 29th The damaging effects of Muslim immigration into the secular societies of Western Europe is caused by 'a millennium' of religious-ethical, cultural and scientifical stagnation of the immigrating Muslim culture (and its insistence to cling to it); while the host culture is-as-it-is exactly because it shook off, during and after the Age of Enlightenment, the yoke of a -religiously- too tight interpretation of the world.

A millennium ago it was the other way around: The Muslim world was culturally and scientifically more advanced than medieval Europe.

Personally, I think that a Muslim background is no hindrances to enter successfully a secular Western society . . . but the insistence to cling to the very narrow religious guidelines for social cohabitation, especially with another culture, makes the current Muslim culture more or less incompatible with the 'open-society-model' so commonly-received among Europeans.

This is why some social-scientific thinkers reflect upon the end of 'multicultural tolerance' after masses of Muslim immigrants sought economic refuge within European countries' political borders.


Tyranosopher in reply to la.výritý

Dear la.vyrity:
I understand what you say. I am myself a cultural supremacist, and an enemy of superstition. I am also from Africa. There is no contradiction; a lot of "Muslims" have left Africa (say), precisely to enjoy a secular republican state in Europe.

There should be not favor extended to Islam which is not extended to other superstitions, such as Judaism (say) and Muslim "law" should not be tolerated in the slightest.

The assertion that the Muslim world was more advanced a millenium ago is widespread, but not true. It is a legend created by very dishonest pseudo intellectuals.

For example the empire of the Franks tolerated Jews and Muslims... With equal rights. Catholics became Jews in droves: that was OK.

In the Iberian Caliphate next door, switching from Muslim to Christian, even for an ex-Christian, was the cause for a very painful execution.

Technologically, the Franks had superior steel by 721 CE (this allowed them to annihilate the army of the Arab Caliphate, in a war, 721-750 CE, which fell to the Iranians by 750 CE, as a result). Europeans also invented the first mechanical clocks (let alone plenty of new species of plants, including beans, and animals).

There is much more along these unconventional lines of wisdom on the site Patrice Ayme (Google!)